Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!cica!travis!greg From: greg@travis.cica.indiana.edu (Gregory TRAVIS) Subject: Re: Amiga/NeXT flames (Was Re: Amiga OS *IS* state...) Message-ID: Sender: news@cica.indiana.edu (News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: travis.cica.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <46907@ut-emx.uucp> <890@cns.SanDiego.NCR.COM> Date: 12 Apr 91 02:06:35 GMT dltaylor@cns.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dan Taylor) writes: >In melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: >>Why is the Unix non-standard? >1) ONLY the NeXT runs that kernel; it is not System V, it is NOT bsd4.3 >(any version) or bsd4.4, it is NOT OSF (as if they actually shipped one). >SunOS is not a standard kernel, either, but they've shipped enough that >some people think it is. I dare you to find a single significant difference between the programming interface to NeXT's Mach and a pure 4.3BSD system. We have several machines here (lots of Suns/Stardents/Silicon Graphics/NeXTs/Macintosh-AUX/VAXs/IBMRT). We have ONE pure 4.3 system - The IBM RT (first generation). And the NeXTs are the second choice for "generic" computers. Where do all those VAXs running Ultrix fall in your classification? >2) it has NON-standard mailers (voice is nice, why not an OSI standard?). Don't really know what you're talking about here. Sendmail is still the underlying delivery method and SMTP is the connection to the outside world. >3) it has a non-standard graphics interface; it is NOT X11R4, which is >[the] only non-proprietary GUI standard. DPS has nice features, but it >isn't a standard, it's [a] proprietary licensed technology. 1) Thank God. 2) So what? >As an aside, other than watching goldfish, what practical use is the >transparency? Try programming one sometime. -- Gregory R. Travis Indiana University, Bloomington IN 47405 greg@cica.indiana.edu Center for Innovative Computer Applications This signature intentionally left blank.