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From: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: .reb?
Message-ID: <1991Apr14.143328.24713@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Date: 14 Apr 91 18:33:28 GMT
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In article <1991Apr11.144434.1285@isc.rit.edu>, drp9500@isc.rit.edu (D.R. Paradis ) writes:
>In article <1991Apr10.204434.24785@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>>In article <1991Apr10.233352.18903@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) writes:
>>>In article <10058@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) writes:
>>>>I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive.
>>>>When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!?
>>>>What is this and how do I use them?
>>>
>>>Prorebel is a coprighted program, thus it is absent from the archive.  If
>>>anyone has a more widely known copier that will work similarly, please
>>>let me know.
>>
>>Actually an illegal hacked front end for several versions of the commercial
>>product ProCopy.  
>>
>
>ERRR - The version of ProRebel I used is a hacked version of A-Copy
>         v. 1.2L 
> Enough people wanted this demo up there, and this was the ONLY program
>that would copy it into file form I decided to take a chance.
>

Whoops!  You are correct that ProRebel is a hacked ACopy, but it is also an 
illegal product.  The one which I was describing is called ProGem, and is also
an illegal product.  Both have their origins within the Pirate subculture.
They are both quite similar:  They combine different versions of the same 
copy program under a common front end.  They both allow one to create a file
containing both the data and copy protection info from a disk.  These files 
are then arced or lzhed and uploaded to boards.  

Sorry about the errata.  I do not question your use of the program, I just 
wanted to make sure you knew where it originated. 

Incidentally, the reason that several versions of the same copy program are 
desired is kind of weird (at least unique to the ST, to my knowledge).  
Basically, if you have version 1.1 of some copy program, it can copy some 
set X of programs.  If you get 1.2, it can copy some set Y of programs.   
However, even though 1.2 is newer, it is not generally true that X is 
contained within Y.  That is, the older one will copy some stuff that the 
newer one cannot?!?  Strange, as you would think that the newer versions  
would only add capability . . .
 
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