Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!cc.newcastle.edu.au!c9037544 From: c9037544@cc.newcastle.edu.au (David Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: GEOS 2.0 - What'a new with it? Message-ID: <1991Apr12.152341.9976@cc.newcastle.edu.au> Date: 12 Apr 91 05:23:41 GMT References: Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA Lines: 43 In article , yorkw@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Willis F York) writes: > Well My little Brother (Grade 9) is needing a > way to write Book reports, Reports, labs, ect. > Sooo > He has a 64, I used Geos 128 a LONG time ago. > Soo i have some questions about Geos2.0 > 1) IS it still very supported? (The 64 seems a dieng breed) > 2) DO they still use that STUPID copy protection scheme? > IE. ya "install" ya New programs on to ya disk. (ICK) > 3) If they still have that silly copy protection, how do i get around it. > (ie, how can i back up theose $60 disks!) > 4) What's new with it, comming out? GEOS does not seem to be being supported on the Commodore by Berkely anymore. Actually, due to its success, their name has been changed to GEOworks. They have released GEOS onto the IBM market, and it seems that this is their current focus. However, GEOS programs are still being written by its very well-established user base. Unfortunately, their copy protection scheme is what is used on GEOS 128 v2.0. I started with GEOS 64, version 1.2 and was able to use Fast-Hack-'Em to backup my disks from the very beginning, before doing any installing at all, but when I upgraded to version 2 on the 128, this did not work, and so until I can find some other way, I am using the original boot disk. GEOS 128 v2.0 is just a slightly modified form of v2.0 on the 64, to take advantage of its extra features. However, if you have come from the original GEOS 128, or even worse, GEOS 64 v1.3, like I did (the upgrade to 1.3 was on the disk that came with my 1351 mouse) then the improvement are phenomenal! I completely recommend this program, although to really get maximum advantage from it you need quite some extra hardware, namely an 80-column monitor (geoWrite won't even work in 40 columns), a 1750 Ram Expansion Unit, a 1351 Proportional mouse, and a 1581 3.5" disk drive. Without these, GEOS is still very good, but requires a bit more patience. I believe that the newest GEOS application was geoBASIC. I have not seen this (and anyway, would much rather see geoC, or something like that). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | David Williams | University of Newcastle, Australia | | c9037544@cc.newcastle.edu.au | Department of Computer Science | | c9037544@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au | | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "The decision of Random Numbers is too important to be left to chance !" | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------