Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!spdcc!iecc!johnl From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: 8086 Unix, was Re: Comparing 486 to 386 Systems Message-ID: <1991Apr10.035331.12694@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> Date: 10 Apr 91 03:53:31 GMT References: <1991Apr7.033635.18412@agate.berkeley.edu> <1991Apr9.150055.13705@cbfsb.att.com> <1991Apr9.234724.24830@agate.berkeley.edu> Distribution: na Organization: I.E.C.C. Lines: 30 In article <1991Apr9.234724.24830@agate.berkeley.edu> c60b-1eq@e260-3e.berkeley.edu (Noam Mendelson) writes: >UN*X can theoretically be run within the bounds of 640K, swapping processes >to the hard disk (very, very often). Ah, how soon they forget. There were several perfectly OK versions of Unix for the 8086. IBM sold PC/IX, which was a pretty straight port of Sys III as well as Xenix. I worked on PC/IX and can testify that it was a real no kidding Unix system running on an ordinary 640K PC/XT with a 10MB disk. Back in the Olden Days Unix ran on PDP-11s, and since the 8086 has slightly more compact code than a PDP-11 and pretty much the same data formats, anything that would fit in a split I/D process on a PDP-11 would also fit in small model under PC/IX. There were two big problems with PC/IX -- the technical one was that it really was small model only (it swapped and moved processes, adjusting segment registers as needed) and the non-technical one was that IBM didn't promote it much and overpriced it at $900. But it was quite reliable, people reported that it'd stay up for months at a time running canned applications with uucp in the background. And in most cases, it hardly swapped at all since 640K was enough for four or five resident proceses along with the kernel. Now, of course, I have 16MB of RAM and a 600MB disk on my 486 clone box, and Sys V R3.2 fills up a lot of it. Times change. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 864 9650 johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {ima|spdcc|world}!iecc!johnl Cheap oil is an oxymoron.