Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.iastate.edu!vancleef From: vancleef@iastate.edu (Van Cleef Henry H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: Who the hell wrote CP/M? Message-ID: <1991Apr11.050024.26814@news.iastate.edu> Date: 11 Apr 91 05:00:24 GMT References: <9104061042.AA71762@f170.n771.z3.fidonet.org> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Lines: 28 In article <9104061042.AA71762@f170.n771.z3.fidonet.org> Jeremy_Harding@f101.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Jeremy Harding) writes: >FSC-Control: EID:f699 16857164 >I speak with authority. I have used TOPS-10 for 8 years as a systems >programmer, and CP/M for 5-6 years. I have used RSX11M for 5 years, and have >seen RT-11 in use as well. CP/M looks like an early offshoot of TOPS-10 ( I am glad that someone in this business can speak with authority. I would not presume to do so. When I can't remember something, my daughter tells me that "Alzheimer's disease is great, dad. You meet new friends every day." I worked for Ben Gurley at DEC on the PDP-1, and recall that the machine was sold without any software---somebody at MIT (can't remember name) wrote a compiler for it. My recollection is that the PDP-10 is a derivative of the PDP-6, and that this in turn was preceded by a one-off PDP-3 experiment. These were Ben Gurley's designs. He died in 1963. The PDP-11 was drawn up by a committee---I was a junior member of that committee; this was in 1969. There was an o/s running on a PDP-6 in the DEC mill in the late 60's that, I think, was the precursor of TOPS-10. As I recall, it had things found in CP/M and RSX such as "pip." My comments are based on recollections of 11-13 years ago, when I used TOPS-10, RSX, RSTS, and CP/M. I think the last I used these was around 1982, and have long since forgotten command details, just the impression that CP/M seemed most like RSX. The real answer will have to come from someone involved with hatching up CP/M, which I wasn't. --