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From: kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt)
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Subject: Re: Freemacs or MG2a or Epsilon?
Message-ID: <1991Apr10.185642.3208@demott.com>
Date: 10 Apr 91 18:56:42 GMT
References: <1991Apr9.171225.663@odin.corp.sgi.com> <1991Apr9.224504.26706@demott.com> <HOWCOME.91Apr9210555@media-lab.media.mit.edu>
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In article <HOWCOME.91Apr9210555@media-lab.media.mit.edu> howcome@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Hakon Lie) writes:
>In article <1991Apr9.224504.26706@demott.com> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) writes:
>
>How
>can you claim that an editor without an undo facility has "far more
>features" ?

    Epsilon has had undo and redo for at least two years now.

>       I would pay $1000 for Epsilon, and I wish the damn thing were
>   available for all machines (like my non-intel-processor-based UNIX
>   systems) because it beats the hell out of not only every other editor
>   I've tried, but out of emacs too (IMNSHO).
>
>I am seriously interested in how you came to this conclusion.

    Because the extension language is C, not Lisp.  I can take a program
from the net that does something really neat, and directly compile it
into my editor.  Also because of the customer support from Lugaru.

    I've been at this game for over 20 years now (frightening thought),
and I've used dozens of different editors (including emacs)- none of
them can touch Epsilon.  On my current UNIX machine, emacs is 5MB on
disk, and what's without anything loaded.  The loading process takes
over a minute.  Emacs with everything loaded is 8MB on my machine, and
my 8MB RAM system can't even load it! Epsilon is <80K, with another 80K
for its state file. 

    Emacs can do things that Epsilon can't, but most of that is because
it's running under UNIX and not constrained by DOS.  (You *can* run a
 process in an Epsilon buffer.)  I haven't used the (386)UNIX version
of Epsilon, but I can't see how there's anything it couldn't do.  (Want
a newsreader?  Don't write one in lisp, import trn or nn code directly
into Epsilon!)


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