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From: swansonc@acc.stolaf.edu (Chris Swanson)
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Subject: Re: Freemacs or MG2a or Epsilon?
Message-ID: <SWANSONC.91Apr12175820@grendel3.acc.stolaf.edu>
Date: 12 Apr 91 22:58:20 GMT
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In-Reply-To: kdq@demott.com's message of 10 Apr 91 18:56:42 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Apr 91 18:56:42 GMT,
>>>>> in message <1991Apr10.185642.3208@demott.com>,
>>>>> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) wrote:

kdq> In article <HOWCOME.91Apr9210555@media-lab.media.mit.edu> howcome@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Hakon Lie) writes:

>In article <1991Apr9.224504.26706@demott.com> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) writes:
 [bunch of stuff deleted]

kdq>     I've been at this game for over 20 years now (frightening
kdq> thought), and I've used dozens of different editors (including
kdq> emacs)- none of them can touch Epsilon.  On my current UNIX
kdq> machine, emacs is 5MB on disk, and what's without anything
kdq> loaded.  The loading process takes over a minute.  Emacs with
kdq> everything loaded is 8MB on my machine, and my 8MB RAM system
kdq> can't even load it! Epsilon is <80K, with another 80K for its
kdq> state file.

 [more stuff deleted]

What "Unix" are you running that does not impliment some kind of paged
or virtual memory?  

Also, what are you loading into emacs? everyting ever written in
elisp??  Right now I am running Emacs w/ all the stock, plus MH and
GNUS as well as about 20 other pacakges on a NeXT and my `ps` just
reported that I am using 2.05M real memory, and have a total
requirement (virtual memory) of 3.09M

I know it's alot compared to Epsilon, and I'm sure that Epsilon is a
nice editor, but your claims of Emacs using > 8 MB of RAM is somewhat
high in my book.

I agree that Emacs may be a bit much for a low-end PC system, but
let's not slam it out of hand, ok?

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