Xref: utzoo comp.text:8262 comp.sys.mac.apps:5263 comp.text.desktop:1558 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: lim@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Dongchul Lim) Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.text.desktop Subject: (SUMMARY) WORD footnote question: "automatically numbered footnote" Message-ID: <1991Apr14.223303.6362@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 14 Apr 91 22:33:03 GMT Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: School of Chemical Sciences, Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 129 === ORIGINAL POSTING ========================================================= * In Microsoft Word 4.0 for Macintosh, you can use "footnote" command to insert * a footnote reference mark. Unless you use your own reference marks, Word * automatically numbers footnotes in sequence. If you add or delete an automatically * numbered footnote, Word adjusts all the reference numbers that follow. * This is a nice feature. *** However *** in many scientific documents, the same * reference numbers can appear many times throughout the text. * I want to maintain the features of automatic numbering and at the same time * I want to use reference numbers more than once. ============================================================================= George Jefferson and Wayne Pollock recommended me to use WordRef written by Mark H. Nodine. Wayne also introduced me several commercial bibliographic softwares. Martin Hitz from Canada explained me how to use multiple references in PC. Many thanks! WordRef version 1.3 used to be in sumex (I heard) but it's been removed from sumex. I got a copy of it directly from the author (Mark H. Nodine, man@cs.brown.edu). It comes with a beautiful user's guide. Here's the summary of what I got from the above people. -dongchul- ****************************************************************************** From: jeffe@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (George Jefferson ) try using the (poorly named? ) "mail merge" feature. If you have a small number of footnotes you can do it by hand, for bigger jobs there are utilites such as WordRef (from sumex..) to help basically you will use merge variables for each reference<> and then repeat them in your bibliography<>. I hope you dont want your footnotes at the bottom of the page<> endnotes... <> author one <> and so on Bcc: -george george@mech.seas.upenn.edu ******************************************************************************** From: Wayne Pollock The problem is that footnotes aren't the same as references. You can't use footnotes as references numbers, except in some special cases. What you want is some bibliography tool, which will automatically number your references, and allow you to insert reference numbers at a given point. If your reference list (i.e., your bibliography) changes, you would like the reference numbers throughout the document to be automatically updated. There is no real easy answers for this, since nearly all word processors today cater to the business world first and the technical writing world last. In MS Word, you can use the sharware program WordRef, which allows you to build a database of references using a pretty nice hypercard front end. You insert your references using MS Word's "Print Merge" variables. so while you type you have references like "The earth is flat[<]." Then, after you use print merge, the document comes out with something like "The earth is flat[2]." The other solution for MS Word is commercial bibliography software. I use a program called EndNote, which works very well with Word and is easy to use. I find it a bit limited in some areas, but overall its pretty good. EndNote doesn't directly support import or export of BibTeX files, but does support some other common formats. The problem is easier to solve in Nisus, if you take the trouble to learn the macro language. My favorite solution, particularly if your document uses tables, figures, and equations, is to use LaTeX and BibTeX. This will take some effort to learn, but is very (the most) powerful, and best of all you can get it free (OzTeX and BibTeX are available by anonymous ftp). Hope this helps! Wayne Pollock (The MAD Scientist) Internet: pollock@screamer.csee.usf.edu ************************************************************************ From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu (George Jefferson) seems to be gone.. try sending a note to the author -- Mark man@cs.brown.edu If he doesn't help, let me know and I'll upload a copy for you. If you do find an ftp copy please let me know (so I can pass it along..) * By the way, word mail merge supports only 127 records, and the version of Wordref (1.3) which was at sumex was stuck with that. 'bout a year ago Mark sent me a beta copy of "Wordref unlimited" which gets around the limit (its a little rough around the edges, but it works ) If there is something newer available I'd like to hear about it.. *you might need two records per reference depending on your 'system' ************************************************************************* From: Martin Hitz Subject: WORD footnote question: "automatically numbered footnote" Dear Dongchul, I can only explain the solution to your problem for Word >= 5.0 for DOS. However, it might work the same way on the Mac. Footnotes are organized as a special type of numbering series. You can refer to a certain footnote by following this procedure: 1) Insert a bookmark with a name of your choice (say, protein) immediately before or eventually on the footnote number in the footnote area (NOT in the reference to the footnote). 2) Wherever you want to to refer to the same (existing) footnote, you write footnote:bookmark-name i.e. footnote:protein followed by a command that marks this text as a series-reference (on a PC, you hit F3 immediately after protein). The reference is then put within parenthesis by WORD, i.e. (footnote:protein) and expands to the corresponding footnote number when printed. Hope this works on a Mac, Martin (hitz@csi.UOttawa.CA) ********************************************************************* * Dongchul Lim | Phone: (217) 333-3509 * * 471 RAL, Dept. of Chemistry | Internet: lim@aries.scs.uiuc.edu * * Univ. of Illinois | lim@k.scs.uiuc.edu * * Urbana, IL 61801 | Bitnet: lim@uiucscs *