Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!gatech!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!ukc!yorkohm!nigelm From: nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel Metheringham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NeXT Keyboards (was RE: Low End NeXTs) Message-ID: <1991Apr10.075619.1328@ohm.york.ac.uk> Date: 10 Apr 91 07:56:19 GMT References: <1991Apr9.122402.5072@wam.umd.edu> <4989@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK Lines: 43 In <4989@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes: [quoting a number of other people....text deleted] >I don't particulary like either the new or the old keyboards. Oh, by and large >the keys are in reasonable places. The argument about where they keys should be is going to run and run - as a Unix user moving to NeXT I am not keen on the relegation of unix-ish keys (ie tilda, pipe, slashes etc) to the keypad, but I seem to be getting used to it very quickly! >But it just doesn't feel right. There is >not enough tactile respnse from the keys. But then again, this seems to >be, perhaps, a problem with Steve Jobs companies: they don't care about the >feel of the keyboards. The original Mac keyboard was the worst keyboard >I've ever had to type on. The newer Mac keyboards are a bit better (about on >par with the NeXT keyboard) but aren't up to the really top-of-the-line >keyboards you can find in the PC world. Tactile feedback really is very >important to touch typists, something the PC world seems to have figured >out but neither the Mac nor NeXT worlds have. The basic problem is that everyone has their own opinions on keyboards - I happen to like the feel of the NeXT (new) keyboard, hate the Dec VT220 (too squidgy), and most IBM PC keyboards (to clacky). What we really need is a _standard_ keyboard connector so that you buy in your own preferred keyboard and use that. Within one research group here, with about 5 people in it, I know of at least 4 set keyboard opinions! One of my co-workers, who has extremely strong opinions on keyboards (his idea of heaven appears to be a Sun 3 keyboard, although they tend to gunge up and suffer from sticky keys), spent better than half an hour berating a rep from TeleVideo who had loaned us a demo terminal - the poor girl was rather relieved to escape!! BTW Shift-Escape gives tilda on a new keyboard as well. Nigel. -- # Nigel Metheringham # EMail: nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk # # System Administrator # Phone: +44 904 432374 # # Department of Electronics # Fax: +44 904 432335 # # University of York, Heslington, York, UK, YO1 5DD #