Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!rutgers!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Passwords Message-ID: <14248:Apr1204:14:4891@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 12 Apr 91 04:14:48 GMT References: <26518@adm.brl.mil> Organization: IR Lines: 13 In article <26518@adm.brl.mil> JRAMSDEN%wl7.prime.com@relay.cs.net writes: > *But* if you then add a couple of numbers or a symbol, to make say > "Sch23wartzkopf" it gets converted immediately from being guessable > (at a pinch) to impossible. Someone might search for passwords where each character is 70% lowercase letter with Shannon frequencies, 10% uppercase letter, 15% digits 23457 (surely you know these are the most common?), 5% other digits. He'd get that password after, say, a hundred billion encryptions---around two months on a small Sun cluster. These are back-of-the-envelope estimates, but I certainly wouldn't say that password was impossible to guess. ---Dan