Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!erb1!osnome!hunting From: nvuxl!gjb@bellcore.bellcore.com (G. Blanchard) Newsgroups: rec.hunting Subject: steel shot Message-ID: <529@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> Date: 11 Apr 91 12:04:25 GMT Sender: news@erb1.engr.wisc.edu Distribution: world Lines: 19 Approved: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu I think that whether or not a shotgun is safe with steel depends on the steel used in the barrel(s) and not the action type. This applies especially to the choke region of the barrel. Older guns (whatever action) were not designed for steel shot use but newer ones apparently use harder steel in the barrels. I have an old Lefever 20 ga. and I would not even think of using steel shot in it. I use a Remington 1100 since, even if I trash a barrel, I can replace it easily. On a related note, I'm sure that this has been thought about before but... is there any treatment process that can make older shotgun barrels tough enough for steel shot use? I seem to recall an article in Physics Today a few years ago where nitrogen ion implantation was used to toughen up replacement titanium hip joint balls so that they were no longer "expendible" items. They claimed something on the order of a factor of 400 increase in surface hardness because of a thin skin of titanium nitride formed by the ion implantation. Is such a treatment applicable to shotgun barrels? Gary Blanchard