Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!pender.ee.upenn.edu!rowe From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Surviving Electrocution Message-ID: <41087@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 13 Apr 91 15:15:03 GMT References: <1991Apr12.212721.519@husc3.harvard.edu> Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Reply-To: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) Distribution: na Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: pender.ee.upenn.edu In article <1991Apr12.212721.519@husc3.harvard.edu> mason3@husc9.harvard.edu (Richard Mason) writes: >I have two questions regarding electrocution: > >1) Would it be possible to send a large electrical current through a human > being or other animal and have them survive without permanent damage? Do your rules allow for subsequent defibrillation? I read an article in _Medical Instrumentation_ back in '86 or '87 that spoke about electrocution (I could dig it up, but it would take a lot of work). It seems that the critical factor is timing more than amount of current. The problem is that if the current density in the heart is high during repolarization of the ventricles (the t-wave of an EKG) the heart will be put into fibrillation, and death is essentially brought on like a major heart attack. If the patient is defibrillated (e.g. another shock applied so that the whole heart is made refractory at the same time) then the person can be brought back with few ill effects. >2) How non-uniform is the resistivity of animal (human) tissue? Is there > any way to make the resistivity more uniform, or otherwise to ensure > that the current in part (1) is roughly uniform throughout the body? It's going to be pretty non-uniform, because blood vessels and other structures will provide guides for current flow... Also it will be time dependent, since the sweat on your skin, the amount of constriction of individual arterioles and venules etc. will vary enough to give significantly different values at different times. As for the second part of this question, I'd guess that you couldn't appreciably homogenize (or even isotropize--hey that's a neat word :) the resistivity while the organism was still alive. But that's just a guess. > >If anybody answers (especially with positives), I'll tell you why I want >to know. (Perhaps you can guess.) I don't think I want to know :) >-- >"These things are pure science fiction! And yet they are all true." > -M.O. Rabin >=================================================================== >Richard Mason | mason3@husc9.harvard.edu | All opinions are my own. Mickey Rowe (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)