Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucselx!bionet!agate!ucbvax!dog.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!crash!simpact!jeh From: jeh@dcs.simpact.com Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: IR receiver on traffic lights ? (no, it's visible light.) Message-ID: <1991Apr12.145200.2270@dcs.simpact.com> Date: 12 Apr 91 21:52:00 GMT References: <1991Apr11.211957.7309@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU> Distribution: na Organization: Simpact Associates, San Diego CA Lines: 52 In article <1991Apr11.211957.7309@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU>, youngqd@jacobs.cs.orst.edu (Dean Youngquist) writes: > The fire trucks in my town seem to trip traffic lights to green in > their direction as they are approaching the intersection. Does anyone > know how they do this? I thought they might have a system using > infra-red light ? If it is infra-red how can they work in the day-time? > Doesn't the sun put out infra-red that would interfere ? Around here the system (called, I think, "Opticom", one of the less-inventive names I've heard lately) uses visible light. A large strobe light atop the fire truck (or paramedic vehicle), running at a fast, but visible, flicker rate, does the job. Yes, the sun and lots of other things put out visible light also, but (a) the pickup unit is not just a CdS cell open to the air; it includes a telescope-like arrangement of lenses (it actually looks like a little telescope, attached to one of the regular R-Y-G traffic light assemblies) so that the pickup area is fairly limited, and (b) not very many things (certainly not the sun) put out anything that looks like a strobe at 10 or 15 (or whatever) pps. It is amazing how well a signal can be picked out of noise, provided you know the exact characteristics of the signal in question. In this case, a simple DC blocking cap will get rid of most of the ambient light, and then it's pretty easy to filter for a steep-sided narrow pulse waveform at whatever the right freq is. At night the pickup will "see" 60 Hz hum from the street lighting, but that's easy to filter out too. Consider how bad static from a poorly-wired car can be in an AM radio, and you'll have some idea how easy it is to "see" a strobe light, even against a brighter background. Since spike waveforms have harmonics that (theoretically) go all the way up the spectrum, they might be able to get away with looking for one, or just a few, of the higher-order harmonics. The first units installed here (15 years ago or so) had PAR floodlamps attached, pointing down the street in each direction from which the intersection could be controlled. Once the strobe had command of the intersection, the appropriate lamp would be turned on to let the driver know that the intersection was indeed controlled and that the green light wouldn't suddenly turn yellow. Later units lack this; apparently the system works so well that they don't need this confirmation. Next time you see a fire truck go by, look at the array of flashing lights and see if there isn't a big (8" diameter reflector or so) strobe among them. --- Jamie Hanrahan (x1116), Simpact Associates, San Diego CA Chair, VMS Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VAX Systems SIG Internet: jeh@dcs.simpact.com, or if that fails, jeh@crash.cts.com Uucp: ...{crash,scubed,decwrl}!simpact!jeh