Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!aero-c!nadel From: uunet!igor!rutabaga!jls@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Jim Showalter) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Message-ID: Date: 10 Apr 91 02:51:52 GMT References: <2995@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> <1991Mar20.050507.24027@informix.com> Sender: uunet!igor!news@ncar.UCAR.EDU Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA Lines: 21 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org >I'm not labeling "Playboy" pornographic, however, its representation >of women does not further a feminist objective. Speak for yourself. There are women who have posed for Playboy who are on record as having said they did it FOR feminist reasons (one in particular I remember said she was raised in an uptight super-religious quagmire of a family and felt free finally to do what she pleased). You are now confronted with a choice between: 1) Those poor women are brainwashed victims of the patriarchy. They didn't really choose to pose of their own free will. 2) Perhaps my feminist objectives are not the same as other feminists' objectives. Perhaps my particular version of feminism even disenfranchises other women with an equal right to validation as women and feminists. Take your pick. -- * The opinions expressed herein are my own, except in the realm of software * * engineering, in which case I borrowed them from incredibly smart people. * * * * Rational: cutting-edge software engineering technology and services. *