Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: SAT scores - sexist? Message-ID: <1991Apr10.203325*Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no> Date: 11 Apr 91 03:33:25 GMT References: <1991Apr9.203133.2551@aero.org> Sender: news@ugle.unit.no Organization: DELAB SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway. Lines: 33 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In-Reply-To: al885@cleveland.freenet.edu's message of 9 Apr 91 20:31:33 GMT Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org i dont want to stoop to flaming, but i resent the implication in the middle of your article about liberal arts courses being "easy" in comparison to engineering/math/science oriented courses. i got good marks all around in high school, and was generally second in my class in science courses, second to a fellow who was a genius at sciences. when i hit college i took a lot of liberal arts courses because they interested me, and i busted my butt on a lot of them. did well in calculus (almost) without opening the book, but had to sweat over a russian history survey course to get a decent grade. i think it's all a matter of difference in individual talent, not in the fundamental difficulty of the course. there are certainly fundamentally easy lib arts courses... "cake courses", we called them... but not all liberal arts courses fall into that area, by a longshot. it almost seems you are trying to veil a fundamental prejudice. women do better in high school and college, despite getting lower SAT scores... so i must now prove men are still smarter by claiming they take harder courses! is that your motivation? or do you have some measure the rest of us dont that shows the objective difficulty of a course rather than a reflection of the particular student's abilities? i'm not sure if i believe the statistics about the difference in SAT scores opposing the difference in actual scholatic achievement. i've heard this "fact" a lot, but generally by word of mouth, and i take what i hear with even more skepticism than what i read. if it is true that there is a difference, i can think of one alternative explanation right off the bat, that the SAT is a poor predictor of scholastic achievement. to finish this off on a lighter note, that's about what i was thinking when i took it 8-) -cindy kandolf cindy@solan.unit.no trondheim, norway