Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: lindborg@basin.cs.washington.edu (Jeff Lindborg) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Unforgiveable Sins Message-ID: Date: 10 Apr 91 08:25:54 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Washington Computer Science Lines: 62 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article goguenm@chopin.udel.edu (Matthew L Goguen) writes: >In article lindborg@snow.cs.washington.edu (Jeff Lindborg) writes: >>What about those of us who are not able to believe your hypothesis? >>Quite simply I am not able to force myself to believe that Christ was the >>Son of God (or that there is, indeed, a god in the first place). I >>believe that (according to you) your god is responsible for giving me my >>skeptical mind... is He not then responsible for my eternal damnation >>too? >It is written: Every knee will bow, every tongue will confess that Christ >is Lord and Saviour. Ref. Romans 14:11 This is a rough paraphrase of >the verse. According to what is written you will bow before God and >will answer to him for all YOUR works (DECISIONS). Of course you are assuming the truth of the Bible... I, however, do not. It is also written that "I will not eat green eggs and ham, said Sam I am!" What's your point? >>I should think that I wont mind being separated from the so-called >>"love" that involves the eternal torment and pain of the majority of the >>human population for the sins committed within the period of a lifetime. >Let's play with an anology for a minute. If God were reduced to man and >man were reduced to computers. Wouldn't God have the right as the creator >to smash a computer, reprogram it, or turn it off whenever he wants? Excellent! I'd been fishing for an explanation of the motivations God had in creating human life for some time... now I have an answer. We are mere play things for His amusement. He can break his toys when they displease Him (as we see he does quite often in the Bible). In answer to your question, yes, He would. I would, however, question his so-called kindness, love, grace, mercy etc... You paint a pretty unflattering picture of God and His relationship to mankind in general. He comes off as somewhat of a spoiled child who is easily prone to fits of rage and jealousy, who then abuses His power by wreaking havok and pain (eternal pain mind you) on His toys that fail to please Him. God is love... >Take a trip to Williamsburg VA >sometime. It might enlighten you to a simple fact, we haven't advanced >as much as you might think we have. The continued insistence on a belief in immortality, heaven and hell are certainly proof of that... >Maybe so however check out SATANISM some time you might >like their mercy and kindness better. >They would like to see you dead only they won't tell you that. This is, of course, a rather silly thing to say to an agnostic. I don't give Satanism any more credit than Christianity. Why would I care what they would like to do to me? You seem to imply that if I don't like Christianity I'm stuck only with Satanism. Thank the Great Pumpkin that this is not the case! BTW Your characterization of "Satanism"(tm) is more than just a little naive. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject rather than employing narrow minded preconceptions about things which you don't understand and/or believe. Jeff Lindborg