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From: krista@sandman.hut.fi (Krista Hannele Lagus)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: Conciousness
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Date: 18 Apr 91 12:01:50 GMT
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>>Has any research been done on programs that are concious, that is have awareness of the world and of themselves? Also there is the problem of infinite recursion because if something is aware of itself, it is also aware of itself being aware of itself etc
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>So I conclude that we can have at best a reasonably accurate model of
>ourselves, but never a perfect one. There are limits to 
>"computational resolution." (My chance for a question: Is this why we have
>a subconscious, stuff happening below the conscious level, because of
>introspective limits?)

Yeah, I've been trying this self-awareness....and I can be at most 3 
times aware of being aware of myself.  All beyond that I can say in
words, but it holds no meaning to me, I can see no difference in being
aware of being aware of being aware and just being aware of being aware 
of myself.  The awareness itself does not add anything new to my character,
and if I've done it once it feels the same as if I did it however many
times.  If we consider ourselves to be self-aware, why should we then ask
computers to be any better in this respect when required essentially the
same characteristic?

Krista