Xref: utzoo comp.databases:9576 comp.software-eng:5369 comp.infosystems:226 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!usage.csd.unsw.oz.au!sphinx!pta!yarra!melba.bby.oz.au!gnb From: gnb@bby.oz.au (Gregory N. Bond) Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.software-eng,comp.infosystems Subject: Re: TZ and INGRES (was: Re: Time Zones HELP!) Message-ID: <1991Apr16.082104.11000@melba.bby.oz.au> Date: 16 Apr 91 08:21:04 GMT References: <1991Apr5.103756.18982@news.cs.indiana.edu> <1991Apr12.162244.5740@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Sender: usenet@melba.bby.oz.au (news READER id) Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge and Young Ltd. Lines: 22 In-Reply-To: heja@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de's message of 12 Apr 91 16:22:44 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: leo-gw It's even worse than this. Ingres (5.xxx) on Suns does all the date conversions in the backend (so no spanning timezones, now!) And it uses a positively prehistoric version of the C library for linking the backend, so doesn't use the zoneinfo stuff at all. The DST algorithms are compiled in and they are wrong. We had problems shifting out of DST where everything else in the place switched except the Ingres database. It pushed the whole system over for two weeks. Braindead bloody system. Reimplements curses, badly. Reimplements timezones, wrong. Reimplements rsh protocols, wrong (and stores the passwords in a reversible encryption, too, so anyone who has had access to ingres source can read the password of any ingres user in the world). If it didn't cost so much, we'd change. -- Gregory Bond, Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Internet: gnb@melba.bby.oz.au non-MX: gnb%melba.bby.oz@uunet.uu.net Uucp: {uunet,pyramid,ubc-cs,ukc,mcvax,prlb2,nttlab...}!munnari!melba.bby.oz!gnb