Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!noao!ncar!unmvax!uservx.afwl.af.mil!galetti From: galetti@uservx.afwl.af.mil Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: Formants (was Re: ,perect pitch) Message-ID: <1991Apr15.094703.21856@uservx.afwl.af.mil> Date: 15 Apr 91 09:47:03 GMT References: <425389987@1991Apr7.100059.1489@urz.unibas.> <1094700003@cdp> <1991Apr11.142237.1501@urz.unibas.ch> <1991Apr13.235927.5503@milton.u.washington.edu> Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB Lines: 28 In article <1991Apr13.235927.5503@milton.u.washington.edu>, allyn@milton.u.washington.edu (Allyn Weaks) writes: > >>That is also the way you distinguish different instruments, by the overtones. > > Only partly. Much more important is the attack - the wild ravings of the > first several milliseconds of a note. If you hear only a sustained tone, it's > often hard to tell a violin from a flute from a horn. Pianos are more > distinctive because of non-linearities in the overtones. > I have to agree with you here. I see this a lot when I edit a sample. Without a descriptive attack the sample could be a simple analog synth. Vocal samples sound really stupid without some form of complex attack. For example, if you sample someone singing "ah" and then edit it so the attack is gone, it sounds pretty boring. If you sample "Tah" and preserve the attack, it sounds much better. The Roland D-50 uses this concept. It takes advantage of the primacy effect that attack sounds have on the human ear. When a distinctive attack is followed by a simple oscillation, the result is a realistic and pleasant sound. Well, I like it anyway! > Allyn Weaks > allyn@milton.u.washington.edu ___________________________________________________________________________ / Ralph Galetti Internet: galetti@uservx.afwl.af.mil \ | PL/LITT Interests: computers, music, computers | | Kirtland AFB, NM 87117-6008 and music, golf, sleep. | \__"No, they couldn't actually prove that it was HIS vomit" - Nigel Tufnel__/