Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!csn!boulder!happy.colorado.edu!hsrender From: hsrender@happy.colorado.edu Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Re: Syntax Change Not Paradigm Shift Message-ID: <1991Apr17.101902.1@happy.colorado.edu> Date: 17 Apr 91 16:19:02 GMT References: <47.UUL1.3#913@acw.com> Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 34 Nntp-Posting-Host: happy In article <47.UUL1.3#913@acw.com>, scott@acw.com (Scott Guthery) writes: > In the commercial realm where real computing is done and where the vast > majority of both the cycles and the dollars of computing are found, one > doesn't find this mindless pursuit of endless transliteration. COBOL is > sufficient and has been for years. There is, you see, a real job to get > done. Yeah, when I was a boy we used to have to toggle switches on a com panel. Sure the machine was big, slow, cost millions of dollars, used up enormous amounts of electricity and generated enough heat to warm a football stadium, but we got the job done and we LIKED it! None of this namby-pamby RISC goobledy-floo, where you can wait a few seconds to see your compile finish. In my day, we used to go away for WEEKS because we knew the average turn-around time on a batch day was 3.5 days and the average availability of the machines was 18 hours out of 24. Most of us have to wear glasses now because of years squinting at hex dumps printed by a failing ribbon on a line printer that we had to keep running with wire and chewing gum. Most of us have the pallor of albino cave fish from years spent in climate controlled basements tending machines that cost 500 times as much as we made in a year. None of this simpering about how much my portable PC weighs or how much Sun raised its prices. In my day we used to thank GOD that we had a tool like COBOL, a language that had was supposed to be for humans and whose programs looked like assembly instructions for a Y-12 bidirectional wing-wang oscillator. These days you hear these whining wimps going on about "functional" languages and "logic programming" languages and "object-oriented" languages. Pfah! We had a real job to do and we didn't have any choice: we had to use COBOL because we had spent $50,000 on the compiler and it was the only language that run on our ancient, outmoded hardware supported and we had no money left after trying to maintain hundreds of thousands of lines of poorly written, poorly structured, non-portable code that cost us thousands of hours and dozens of burnt-out programmers. There was a real job to be done and we did it and WE LIKED IT!! hal.