Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!abvax!iccgcc!klimas From: klimas@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Re: The Emperor Strikes Lethe Message-ID: <4322.280ddb35@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Date: 18 Apr 91 22:45:25 GMT References: <43.UUL1.3#913@acw.UUCP> <890@puck.mrcu> <1991Apr12.144951.13507@cua.cary.ibm.com> Lines: 29 In article <1991Apr12.144951.13507@cua.cary.ibm.com>, rick@cua.cary.ibm.com (Rick DeNatale) writes: > In article <890@puck.mrcu> paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson) writes: >> > Finally, yes, conventional wisdom is that Smalltalk is for prototyping, but > as Scott Knaster so nicely pointed out "conventional wisdom is often wrong." > Smalltalk has been used for production and commercial software. If you ever > get a chance to hear someone like Dave Thomas of Object Technology Inc., or > Reed Phillips of Knowledge Systems Corporation speak about their experiences > with using Smalltalk in the real world, I'd recommend it. Dave gives a good > talk that is often titled "You can't do that with Smalltalk". Reed has had > several experiences where "prototypes" went into production after a KSC > client had mistaken beliefs about performance, robustness, or something else > that goes bump in the night corrected. > > Smalltalk has certainly had to overcome as much mythology based on its early > implementations as Eiffel has. > > Rick DeNatale > Of course my opinions are my own, who else would want them? Some commercial products for mass market consumption have been very successfully developed under Smalltalk (Digitalk's) db Publisher Anderson Foundation Case Tools Wycash portfolio analyzer Nevisis? banking package HP's Network Analyzer Also there have been previous postings on comp.lang.smalltalk that people have seen Smalltalk/V-PM walk back windows during early demos of IBM's Office Vision.