Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!mtxinu!unisoft!hoptoad!fidogate!f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG!tom.jennings From: tom.jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (tom jennings) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Caller ID, or so I thought. Message-ID: <13700.2804F8A3@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 11 Apr 91 00:55:48 GMT Sender: ufgate@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/111 - Fido Software, San Francisco CA Lines: 30 Isn't all this talk of "intent" off the mark? Any talk of "intent" is way off the mark. If the telco simply provides the tools whereby I can block ID in any or most of the various methosd mentioned in here, what's the problem? The problem seems to be getting hung up over "intent" -- I *might* do some terrible thing. Then someone comes up with counterargument, ad nauseum. INFINITE LOOP DETECTION -- you can always come up with any number of "obvious" examples. Stop trying. If I use Caller ID/anonymity/privacy to commit a crime, there are already enough (I'd argue *more* than enough) ways to prosecute me. What *I* see here is the law'n'order mentality in it's intellectual disguise -- the someone-might-do-something-bad assumtion, with its well-of-course-we-need-safeguards and all that. It is *none of anyones business* whether I "might" do something illegal -- or wrong. Until I do it. 98% of the arguments -- pro or con -- seem to me to be thought-police in one form or another. And now ... -- tom jennings - via FidoNet node 1:125/777 UUCP: ...!uunet!hoptoad!fidogate!111!tom.jennings INTERNET: tom.jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG