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From: bstrong@sleepy.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Goofy Router?
Message-ID: <1324.28042ba5@sleepy.bmd.trw.com>
Date: 11 Apr 91 16:25:56 GMT
Reply-To: bstrong@oz.bmd.trw.com
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Hello,

I have a problem.  We have lost connection to a site we need to
get to (for e-mail mainly).  Pinging it gives no response, although
Nslookup can tell me its ip address.  They are not down and can get
out onto the rest of the Internet as can we.  I think I'm getting
"stuck" at one certain router and I'd like confirmation/correction on
this.  Here's what's going on:

    we're oz.bmd.trw.com (129.193.100.6) and we're trying to get to
          afsc-bmo.af.mil (132.62.71.1)


    When I did a traceroute to afsc-bmo.af.mil on 4/10/91 I got this -
    1   outdsg.nba.TRW.COM
        .
        .
        .
    13  192.52.195.1
    14  * * *
    15  * * *
        .
        .
        .
    30  * * *

    This tells me why I can't get to afsc-bmo - I'm exceeding 30 hops - but
    what the heck is happening?  I know there's no way it's even 30 hops to
    this site - we could mail to them last week.  What is this router at
    192.52.195.1 doing?  When I traceroute just to 192.52.195.1 I got this -
    1   outdsg.nba.TRW.COM
        .
        .
        .
    13  192.52.195.1 (192.52.195.1)  1080 ms  1030 ms  1070 ms
    14  192.52.195.1 (192.52.195.1)  1060 ms !P  1020 ms !P  1050 ms !P

    What does the second hop with the bang 'P' for?  I've never seen this !P
    and didn't see anything in out documentation (using Wollongong TCP/IP for
    VMS).  Now, one more thing,  I did another traceroute this morning
    (4/11/91) and got the same thing except that the IP address, 192.52.195.1,
    now has a logical address and shows up as MOFFETT-FLD-MB.DDN.MIL in the
    traceroute, but the trace is still identical to the previous one.  Are
    these guys just configuring a new router or what?  I don't know who to
    contact to ask in person about it.  Could someone help???
    As is obvious, I'm a real novice so please look past my ignorance.


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Bryan Strong                    TRW * Ogden, UT * USA
                                Computing Services / Software Support
Internet:                       bstrong@oz.bmd.trw.com
Phone:                          801.625.8090