Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT/Amiga Flamage: Get a life. Message-ID: Date: 16 Apr 91 23:52:50 GMT References: <1991Apr9.014258.5903@cc.helsinki.fi> <46969@ut-emx.uucp> <1991Apr12.043922.23901@sbcs.sunysb.edu> <8=G24ln1@cs.psu.edu> <1046@stewart.UUCP> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 49 In-Reply-To: jerry@polygen.uucp's message of 15 Apr 91 15:41:41 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws5.sys.cs.psu.edu In article <1046@stewart.UUCP> jerry@polygen.uucp (Jerry Shekhel) writes: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: > > So when do we see some real programming? :) > > Just look at Berksoft's GEOS Ensemble for the PC. It will run on anything, > plus it allows multitasking or single tasking. And all Microsoft can come > up with is Mr Elephant, Windows 3.0. > >Everyone knows Windows 3.0 is a joke. > Everyone knows Windows 3 is a joke? You must have ESP to know what's on everyone's mind. Next time, please speak for yourself. If you were at all informed, you'd know that Windows has to do a lot more than PC-GEOS. For example, it has to support DOS applications, it has to manage extended and expanded memory, and there is much more. I agree that GEOS may have better overall design, but the fact that it runs in the contiguous 640K memory space and doesn't have to support DOS applications REALLY simplifies things for it -- and limits it. I don't care if every application written for GEOS must be written in assembly language -- if it takes off, sooner or later, someone like Lotus will run out of memory under 640K. And from there, there's no way to go with GEOS, except to extend GEOS itself with more sophisticated memory management. Then we'll see how much smaller it will be than Windows. The only thing that I said was the last line. "Everyone knows Windows 3.0 is a joke." The rest is from one elses posting, thank you. > >But IBM'ers will do what ever >it takes to get a Macinstosh w/o actually buying a Macintosh. > My, aren't we pretending to be the All-Knowing today! By the way, we have the latest beta of MacOS 7.0 in-house. It looks nice, and I'd say it's pretty close to Windows in terms of functionality. And guess what -- when I pull down "About This Macintosh", the reported memory usage for the system software is 2100K! So you tell me: who's Mr. Elephant here? Think Windows will ever get a real File Manager? And what functionality does Windows 3.0 have that System 7.0 doesn't? I repeat Windows is a joke. Microsoft is make a lot of money of stupid PC users who should own a Mac. The smart ones should own a NeXT(ok, I concede a little...or perhaps an Amiga 3000) -Mike