Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!apple!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben From: ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Kermit for JrComm? Message-ID: Date: 14 Apr 91 00:34:22 GMT References: <791.280868f6@zodiac.rutgers.edu> Lines: 45 >In article <791.280868f6@zodiac.rutgers.edu> amatthews@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes: >I think Jr-Comm is the nicest term out there, but unfortunately I >find that I am unable to use it. The reason for this is that I >use a term program mostly to get on the nets, and whenever I want >to transfer something from the VAX that I have an account on to >my Amiga, I have to use kermit protocal. I know. I'm in a similar situation with my Prime mini. I tried JRComm 0.94 long ago. It had the *coolest* zmodem I had ever seen, but I use kermit too much for it to be useful. I *really* liked JRComm though, and as soon as he puts kermit in, I'll grab that version and give it a whirl. If I like it, he gets a little richer :-)... seriously, I don't even know if the latest jrcomm has XPR support. If it does, then you and I can run kermit. >There is an Xmodem transfer >system on the VAX, but it was last updated in 1984 and works at most >10% of the time. Any chance Jack R. will ever add kermit to Jr-Comm? >Are you reading this Jack? Oh by the way, why is kermit so slow? >It usually transfers binary files at half the speed of Xmodem. Well, if you are dealing with a mini that likes 7-bit protocols (my Prime does, I'm not sure about your VAX), kermit escapes every byte with the high bit set with a prefix byte. There's some other characters it likes to escape also (XON/XOFF, etc). Most kermits also use a smaller packet size than Xmodem as well. Kermit is slow because it seems to be an absolute lowest-common-denominator protocol. It's possible to write a kermit for almost any machine, no matter how brain-damaged. The same cannot be said of X/Y/Z modem protocols. Jack, if you add kermit support, do it right, like you did with Zmodem. I need support for manipulating a kermit server on the other end as well as the interactive commands (i.e. seperate "get" and "recieve" commands, and "bye" and "finish" commands). Pretty much those and "send" are the minimal kermit commands that I must have. VLT doesn't support all these, forcing me to use an ancient VT100 program to do terminal emulation. I'm gonna have to try a newer version of VLT as well, I'm sure... > --Alex -- | ben@epmooch.UUCP (Ben Mesander) | "Cash is more important than | | ben%servalan.UUCP@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | your mother." - Al Shugart, | | !chinet!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben | CEO, Seagate Technologies |