Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!SUN2.EMR.CA!fillmore From: fillmore@SUN2.EMR.CA (Bob Fillmore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: Amiga Custom Chips Message-ID: <9104172234.AA04604@sun2.emr.ca> Date: 17 Apr 91 22:34:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 34 In article <20298@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes: > >Specific to the Amiga, there were several problems. First of all, the video >chips are directly tied to video. If you speed up the bus cycle, you speed >up the video shift rate, unless you go to a multiple of it. The current Agnus >runs a 280ns cycle. To double that, and go to 140ns, you would need 60ns >DRAM, which are only now becoming available in large quantities, and are still >quite expensive (though, if they're on schedule, they'll get cheap in the next >year or so). Any somewhat faster bus speedup and you lose NTSC or VGA scan >and pixel rates. While it's conceivable that you could divorce the scan >rate from the bus rate, that's a MAJOR architectural change, far more complex >than building new chips that speed up in other ways (32 bit bus is the way >the microprocessors gained their modern speed, more than clock rate speedups). > >-- >Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" > {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy > "That's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight" -R.E.M. A question I have been meaning to ask for a while: How hard would it be to implement phased memory banks in the Amiga, a technique used by mainframe manufacturers to implement fast memory by using slow DRAM chips? Phased memory banks work by using the low-order bits of the address as a bank select so that the address bus cycle can be faster than the memory bank cycle. ________________________ Bob Fillmore, Systems Software & Communications email: fillmore@emr1.emr.ca Computer Services Centre, BIX: bfillmore Energy, Mines, & Resources Canada Voice: (613) 992-2832 588 Booth St., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0E4 FAX: (613) 996-2953