Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!kth.se!sunic!mcsun!ukc!mucs!logitek!grep!frank From: frank@grep.co.uk (Frank Wales) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: Switching from Sun to HP: some general questions Message-ID: <1991Apr15.121850.1562@grep.co.uk> Date: 15 Apr 91 12:18:50 GMT References: <7370361@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> <1991Apr13.005946.9689@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Reply-To: frank@grep.co.uk (Frank Wales) Organization: Grep Limited, LEEDS, UK Lines: 17 In article <1991Apr13.005946.9689@nntp-server.caltech.edu> anthony@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Lawrence Anthony) writes: >my local hp sales rep tells me that C/ANSI C is NOT bundled with the base >HPUX operating system. he claims that HPUX includes a stripped-down version >of the C compiler that contains neither a debugger nor an optimizer. (pretty >slimy, if you ask me.) any hp folk care to confirm or refute this claim? Your sales rep is broken. According to sales literature I have to hand (plus the HP9000/345 I'm writing this on), ANSI C is a separate product on the *300s* and is likely to stay that way -- HP-UX on these machines continues to ship with a pcc-derived C compiler (maybe this applies to the 400s too, I don't know). HP-UX for PA machines (700/800) has ANSI C bundled. All versions of HP-UX ship with decent debuggers and fairly reliable optimisers, although the code quality seems better on PA. -- Frank Wales, Grep Limited, [frank@grep.co.uk<->uunet!grep!frank] Kirkfields Business Centre, Kirk Lane, LEEDS, UK, LS19 7LX. (+44) 532 500303