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From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
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Subject: Re: 32-bit Clean ROM upgrade - list created.
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Date: 16 Apr 91 21:16:50 GMT
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In article <1991Apr16.155525.2416@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) writes:
>	The Macintosh IIcx, and the Macintosh SE/30, two of Apple's
>strongest products in the middle-high range, were created with a
>feature many Macintosh users thought was a wonderful idea: socketed
>ROMs.  I quote from the Macintosh SE/30 Spec Sheet -

	...

>	These machines were also advertised as having the ability to
>use up to 128 megabytes of RAM (Once again from the SE/30 sheet) -

	...

>	However, with the advent of 4 and 16 Mb SIMMS, 32-bit
>Cleanliness, and System 7.0, it was found that users of the IIcx and
>SE/30 (not to mention the II and IIx) couldn't access more than 16
>megabytes, since the ROMs of those machines weren't 32-bit clean.

	...

>	But, unlike the II and IIx, the IIcx and SE/30 have socketed
>ROMs.  An upgrade to 32-bit Clean ROMs seemed the obvious things.
>Apple, however, hasn't said a single word, and has even given
>indication that the idea hasn't "offically" occured to them.

	...

>	What is reasonable is asking Apple to assure users,
>officially, that there _will_be_ a 32-bit clean ROM upgrade for the
>SE/30 and IIcx.  That it will arrive within a reasonable time, say
>before the end of 1991.  And that it will cost a reasonable amount,
>placing it within the reach of home users and students, as well as
>businesses and educational institutions.

	Not to put you off or anything, because they *did* advertise (at 
least according to your quotes) that the IIcx and the SE/30 would have 
these capabilities, but do you really think that there would be that much 
demand for this?  I mean, sure, eventually programs will get so big that 
you'll need more than 16Mb of memory to use them, but I can't see myself 
needing that much for quite some time yet.

	I do agree that Apple should make a ROM upgrade available, but I 
don't see it as being nearly as urgent as you seem to.  

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