Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: gaynor@hpuxa.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: 32-bit Clean ROM upgrade - list created. Message-ID: <1991Apr17.120113.7710@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: 17 Apr 91 12:01:13 GMT References: <1991Apr16.155525.2416@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <0094737E.20BFEEA0@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu> Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 42 Nntp-Posting-Host: hpuxa.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <0094737E.20BFEEA0@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu> price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes: > Not to put you off or anything, because they *did* advertise (at >least according to your quotes) that the IIcx and the SE/30 would have >these capabilities, but do you really think that there would be that much >demand for this? I mean, sure, eventually programs will get so big that >you'll need more than 16Mb of memory to use them, but I can't see myself >needing that much for quite some time yet. I don't either, John. In fact, I've only got 2 Mb on my SE/30, and live quite well with that. But there are people who -do- use that much memory (though it's difficult for me to see -how- ), and right now they have to buy a whole new machine. That's not right, considering that a big selling point of the SE/30 and IIcx were their easily-replacable ROM SIMMs. > I do agree that Apple should make a ROM upgrade available, but I >don't see it as being nearly as urgent as you seem to. If not now, when? It's not urgent. Now. But a two years down the line, when the latest and greatest requires 32-bit Clean ROMs, do you think Apple is going to take the idea of producing an upgrade seriously? Who knows where DOS users would be if they complained en masse about the 640k limit 4 or 5 years ago? (bad comparison, I know) If we get this thing underway -now-, and get enough support, we may have an actual product in a year. So we start now, while the SE/30 is still part of Apple's lineup, the IIcx is still widely used, and the topic of ROMs is high on everyone's mind. Oh, and as for the class-action suit idea, I don't really think it would work. The 16 meg limit is for the Finder. The memory above is accessible, and specialized software could be written to turn it into a RAMdisk or whatever, but it can't be Finder memory. So, technically, the memory is usable. And law is full of technicalities. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jim Gaynor - The Ohio State Univ. - IRCC - Facilities Mgmt. - OCES | | Email [gaynor@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu], [gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu] | |_ "Don't tell me truth hurts, little girl; because it hurts like hell..." _|