Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!burdvax!dave From: dave@PRC.Unisys.COM (David Lee Matuszek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: New Apple Self-Help Tools Message-ID: <17258@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM> Date: 17 Apr 91 17:39:35 GMT References: <13063@goofy.Apple.COM> <1991Apr16.040127.5260@wlbr.imsd.contel.com> <51554@apple.Apple.COM> Sender: news@PRC.Unisys.COM Organization: Unisys Corporation, Paoli Research Center; Paoli, PA Lines: 52 In article <51554@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes: >The first consideration is the price of the components of each >package. For instance, sez here that the Mac C Programming package >consists of THINK C, Mac Programming Primer, Human Interface >Guidelines, and Mac Programming Secrets. THINK C runs $200-250, and you >can figure about $20 for each book. This means that the total price >should be in the area of $280-$330. The actual price is $250. > >Now, this sort of leads to the second consideration, which is the >discount that Apple gives you. THINK C by itself costs $249 from APDA. >That means that Apple is throwing in 4 books for $1. This is totally bogus. You can get THINK C from MacWarehouse for $165. Plus, you get overnight delivery instead of six to eight weeks. I read my APDAlog to find out what's available, but I'd never buy anything from APDA if there's any other source at all. I saw the "announcement," too, and chucked it. It looks like APDA has lumped together a more-or-less random collection of things, called them "Starter Kits," and reduced their prices to nearly street prices. > buying them! When we asked around, we found out that customers didn't > think that such a package could be any good at that low of a price. So > Apple raised the price and the course started selling more briskly. Don't tell me, let me guess--you were talking to executives, not programmers, right? Sorry if I'm stepping on your toes, but I don't think you'll get much support from this newsgroup. People here tend to know a good price from a bad price. And I doubt that anyone here was put off by $199 (or even $99) being "too low" a price; speaking strictly for myself, I looked at those courses a while back, figured they were probably pretty good, and decided I couldn't afford them. -- Dave Matuszek (dave@prc.unisys.com) I don't speak for my employer. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | When I was young, my family bought a color TV. Our neigbors, who | | were poorer, had only a black-and-white set. They bought a piece of | | cellophane, red on top, yellow in the middle, and blue on the bottom, | | and taped it over their screen, so they could claim that they had a | | color TV, too. | | Now there's Windows 3.0. | -------------------------------------------------------------------------