Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!uflorida!gatech!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: RISC vs. CISC -- SPECmarks Message-ID: Date: 18 Apr 91 03:23:27 GMT References: <71367@brunix.UUCP> <8lbG1vdl1@cs.psu.edu> <1991Apr10.155032.14786@data.com> <1991Apr15.165540.14270@agate.berkeley.edu> <1991Apr17.192605.1@sif.claremont.edu> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 27 In-Reply-To: greg@sif.claremont.edu's message of 18 Apr 91 02:26:05 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws5.sys.cs.psu.edu In article <1991Apr17.192605.1@sif.claremont.edu> greg@sif.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes: There is one monkey wrench that no one seems to think about. Gallium Arsenide. CISC chips used to make a great deal of sense when memory was so much slower than CPUs. Instead of wasting clock cycles sitting around idle waiting for memory, the CISC chip would perform a complex instruction that took multiple clock cycles. Now that memory has done a fairly good job of catching up, RISC makes a great deal of since. That's where GaAs comes in. It is much faster than silicon, and much more expensive. The price is going to stay high for some time. Unless you're paying supercomputer prices, that means you can't build a whole GaAs computer. If anything, its just going to be the CPU. Once again, your CPU will be so much faster than your memory that CISC is going to be the more productive design. Is there some reason that memory can't be built out of GaA? Also, RISC chips will be the first CPU's made out of GaA because of the low # of transisters that can currently be put on on a chip made out of GaA, and RISC chips require fewer CPUs than the monolithic 68040. Anyway, NeXT needs a near term solution to the price/performane rat race, and RISC is currently blowing the doors off of CISC. -Mike