Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!twg.com!david From: david@twg.com (David S. Herron) Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga 3000UX Color X Message-ID: <8834@gollum.twg.com> Date: 15 Apr 91 04:16:28 GMT References: <20073@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1641@amix.commodore.com> <1991Apr6.034011.22156@grebyn.com> Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 59 In article <1991Apr6.034011.22156@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) writes: >In article <1641@amix.commodore.com> ag@amix.commodore.com (Keith Gabryelski) writes: >>This is not true. The native color implementation will be slower than >>the monochrome server. Sans magick, I don't see any way around this. > >If the X11R3 port was badly done (rushed, for example, to meet shipping >deadlines) then this could be true. Eh? Usually, Mr. Checkpoint, you're smarter than this. A color server *must* be slower than a monochrome server simply because a color server has more bits to shove around. Now, that's assuming equal situations. A color server running on an A2410 constitutes a very unequal situation since a lot of the server can/will be offloaded into the board & free up the main processor for Other Things. BTW, mentioning the 2410... A C= marketing feller (western area) demonstrated it running on Unix and X11R at the latest FAUG meeting. The demonstration was less than satisfactory because 1) the display died 10 minutes into it, and 2) the only things he did was not at all fast. He loaded in a picture into the screen's background but that took ~ 2 minutes (veeery sloooow). Then he ran that normal X demo which draws a bunch of lines, pauses, clears the window, and loops. Because of that pause it was hard to get an idea of the speed ... Price: He wouldn't give a firm one but said < $1500. Now.. The street price of similar boards for PCs and Macs is much less than that, ~ $500 if memory serves right. The street price for 2410s had better be in that range ... When: Also didn't give a firm date. However he *strongly* implied < 2 months. Since this is C= do we double this? :-) Screen-Size: His demo was running at 1024x768 and he gave some lame excuse about it being "standard". I know quite well that the card is capable of 1024x1024, but will C= actually support this mode? I want a "work station" at home.. part of what this means is having a >1000x1000 size screen & I require being able to stack two 80 col by 66 line windows side by side. Monitor-Type: The demo monitor was $2000 and up around 20 inches. Obviously I don't wanna spend this much on a monitor so what options are there for use with a 2410, and will we know what they are before it comes out? Finally: Why think about this expensive route of buying a new system when I can get the screen I want with a used Sun3 .. they go for < $1000 over in misc.forsale.computers y'know. -- <- David Herron, an MMDF & WIN/MHS guy, <- Formerly: David Herron -- NonResident E-Mail Hack <- <- "MS-DOS? Where we're going we don't need MS-DOS." --Back To The Future