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From: andy@ausvm1.iinus1.ibm.com (Andy Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: shells?
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Date: 16 Apr 91 14:42:52 GMT
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In article <1991Apr16.050922.22662@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>,
jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson) writes:
> From: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson)
> Subject: Re: shells?
> 
> In <1455@irit.irit.fr> pfeiffer@irit.fr (Daniel Pfeiffer) writes:
> 
> >I don't need a history or a command line editor, GNU Emacs does that
> >better than any shell will ever be able to!
> 
> Have you tried emacs mode in KSH?  I'm not familiar with Emacs (GNU or
> otherwise), but I find that emacs mode in KSH is great.
> 
> Sounds like KSH is for you!  You can do all that, but ${$#} is the PID
> of the command, and not the number of arguments to the command ($# is
> this).  I recommend you get the KSH and the book by Morris I. Bolsky
> and David G. Korn called the "The Kornshell Command and Programming
> Language" (ISBN 0-13-516972-0).  It's a great book and even though I've
> only had my copy for about 3 weeks, I've already gained a world of
> knowledge from it.
> 

Are you telling me after nine years of loyalty to the Bill Joy school of
thought
that vi (vee-eye) and csh are no longer the preferrered editor and shell.

Frankly I'm appalled. Joy may have changed his image over there at Mountain
View but his legacy is as valid to day as it was in those early days at
Berkeley.

I for one continue to use vi and csh.

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