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From: allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: POSIX bashing (actually cooked vs raw or cbreak mode)
Message-ID: <1991Apr16.020533.7063@NCoast.ORG>
Date: 16 Apr 91 02:05:33 GMT
References: <71479@brunix.UUCP> <1991Apr10.192226.24909@world.std.com> <1991Apr11.140508.9012@athena.mit.edu>
Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA)
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As quoted from <1991Apr11.140508.9012@athena.mit.edu> by jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens):
+---------------
|   Now, I've never programmed with streams, but I was under the impression that
| it's possible to use them to do something like this.  Can't the user write a
| streams driver that does his line-editing, etc. for him, and set the tty to
| use that driver by default, so that applications that don't muck with the line
| discipline will automatically have whatever interface the user installs?  In
| my opinion, this is the right direction to go.  And, as I said in my previous
| message, Multics was doing it long ago.
+---------------

der Mouse and I had this discussion two years ago.  I'm still waiting to get
my hands on a Unix with a Streams tty driver so I can show him some code...
but SunOS and SVR4 have the capability already.

It should be possible to come up with something that has a compatible program
interface (whether "compatible" means termio, termios, or sgtty) yet has a
user interface which provides line editing, history, etc.

++Brandon
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