Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: km456265@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Kevin Melsheimer) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: Subwoofer Building Message-ID: <11040@uwm.edu> Date: 15 Apr 91 12:34:31 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 77 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu As to your first question: 1) Has anyone had experience with Parts Express? Are their drivers and crossover decent? How are their prices? I have personally ordered many times from Parts Express and they are a reputable company. When you call their 800 number you can expect to see your order in no more than two weeks, one week usually being the case. I have found that their quality is good to excellent, the latter being attributed only to their line of Polydax speakers. The prices are compared to many other mail order houses, but their sale prices have yet to be topped by any mail order firm that I know of. I don't have any experience with their crossovers; but my friends that have ordered them have been quite satisfied. As for your second question concerning using a tube as an enclosure for speakers, I have looked at this method for building speaker boxes and have dismissed it due to the length of tubes required to tune subwoofers properly. With the 15" Thruster woofers I am currently using it would be impossible to fit a properly tuned 15" tube within the length of any room in my house. Your third question asks about speakerboxes. I currently am using a box of 11.3 cubic feet with a tuned port of eighteen inches in length and eleven inches in diameter. This tunes the box to around 29 Hertz and the frequency cuttoff for the box is about 28 Hz. My box is made out of 3/4 inch plywood and I would recommend going with inch thick plywood if you can afford it. Bracing is also very important in a subwoofer enclosure. I use two x twos throughout the structure of the box, which I might add is quite big. As to your fourth question of having a crossover before your amplifier, yes it is possible. I am currently using a 100db per octive active crossover crossed over at 112 Hz. If your would like more information on active crossovers and speakerbuilding in general, I would advise you to read "Enhanced Sound: 22 projects for the audiophile." It is my opinion that this book is the most comprehensive book on Audio that exists for the beginning audiophile. Your fifth question asks about dual-voice coil subwoofers. These units sole purpose in life is to be driven by an amplifier that fails to have the capacity of beign bridged into mono. I would not recommend using a dual voice coil woofer if you are a true audiophile. The bass will get quite distorted if the bass from the two channels being input are different from each other. This is due to the speaker trying to go in two directions at once--the net result is distortion. Dual voice-coil units do have one practical use though. If you own an amp that can put power into two ohms, you will find that you can wire the woofer in parallel (if the speaker was originally four ohms) and have a lot more power available from your amp. In your fourth question you ask about matching speaker efficiencies. This is important if you are driving the subwoofer off the same amp as your main speakers (your Boston Acoustics A60's). I would not recommend doing this, however. A subwoofer requires a lot of power and if you want to use an active crossover, you will be forced to use another amp. Matching efficiencies are unimportant when you can control the amount of power going into each speaker. If your subwoofers are more efficient than your A60's (which will probalby be the case) you can simply put less power into them to compensate for this. The speakers I would recommend to you for building subwoofers would be the Thruster 12" found in Parts Express. This speaker has a very good frequency response if ported properly (down to 18 Hz). The box size will be quite large, however. Using a box size of 10.8 cubic feet will provide a speaker that has no dips or peaks larger than +/- .5 dB under 150Hz. If you have the space, I would go with these. I have found that the Thruster line of speakers have the best sound quality for the price for woofers (For bass-reflex applications). If you find a better speaker for the money, please notify me. I hope you find my information usefull, write me if you have any more questions on subwoofers, Kevin Melsheimer km456265@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu