Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!erb1!osnome!hunting From: keith@clodii.columbiasc.NCR.COM Newsgroups: rec.hunting Subject: Deer Calls Message-ID: <538@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> Date: 16 Apr 91 12:26:42 GMT Sender: news@erb1.engr.wisc.edu Lines: 61 Approved: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu Hello, I would like to open up a discussion concerning using grunt and bleat calls to attract/distract deer mostly while hunting them but other instances would apply also I think. Deer calls have gained popularity here in the South in the last 2 or 3 years and now just about every hunter will have one strung around his neck. I purchased a Ben Lee grunt call for about $7 dollars in Oct. of '89 and still use it though I have "worked" on it some to get it to sound the way it should. Some years before that I bought a bleat call from P.S. Olt but it sounded kind of "unusual" I thought. Let me relate two experiences I had using both of these calls. The first time I used the P.S. Olt call was one day that I got to my hunt spot about 1 hr. before dark. Just enough time to walk in quietly and set down and watch a small clearing. Shortly before dark I could hear a deer moving just in the woods on the other side of the clearing but I could not see it. I decided to try the call and so I blew the bleat call once softly like the instructions said and guess what? It spooked the deer and it took off running and snorting and didn't stop till it got to the next county! Never got to see that deer. Needless to say, I have never used this call again. The second event turned out to be pretty incredible I thought. I was hunting a small field about 120 yds long by 30 or so yds wide. There were hardwood hollowson either side of the field and the deer crossed there frequently searching for acorns. About 9:00 am a small buck crossed the field from left to right and got into some short pines before I could get the scope on him. I immediately tried the Ben Lee grunt call thinking I had nothing to lose and blew one soft grunt with it. The deer was completely out of my view and about 45 yds from me when I did it, but guess what? This buck came charging back across the field almost directly towards the tree I was sitting in! I shot him in the right shoulder about 15 yds from my tree after I regained my senses. It was a small 115 lb. 8-ptr. that thought he was a lot bigger, I guess. ( What would I have done had I been sitting on the ground? Don't know.) Why did the buck come charging like that? Was he looking for another buck to fight or a doe to make whoopee with? (I shot another buck (160 lb 8-ptr) from the same spot later on that I feel was the dominant buck in that area) I have heard both bucks and does grunt before. I have used the grunt call since then and learned that only rarely will it call in a deer like that. It should not be used with that intention. I have alsonoticed that it seems to help "calm" deer down that are skittish. It will also stop deer sometimes long enough to get a shot but then so will a loud whistle. I would be very interested in reading about any experiences that any other deer hunters in the group have had using deer calls. Comments, discussion, and input are welcome. Thanks!! Keith Boyd P.S. I would like to limit this to whitetail deer since I feel that results may not necessarily apply to all species of big game. (ie. Bugling for Elk is something totally different IMHO.) --- | Keith M. Boyd (NCR E+M Cola.) | Nothing could be fina' than huntin' and | | 3325 Platt Springs Rd. | fishin' in South Carolina! -Me- | | West Cola., S.C. 29170 | Fax: 791-6998 | keith@clodII.Columbia.NCR.COM | | Vp: 803-791-6419 | From uunet: !uunet!ncrlink!ncrcae!sauron!clodII!keith |