Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!exodus!appserv!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: edat!brian@uunet.UU.NET (brian douglass) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: How effective was the Stealth fighter? Message-ID: <1991Apr16.041449.27984@amd.com> Date: 12 Apr 91 16:51:03 GMT References: <1991Apr9.025945.1283@amd.com> <1991Apr11.033856.5300@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Electronic Data Technologies, Inc., Las Vegas, NV Lines: 44 Approved: military@amd.com From: edat!brian@uunet.UU.NET (brian douglass) A couple of facts on F-117a performance. When the bombing started on Baghdad, the F-117s were already over the target at the designated hour. Iragi air defenses around Baghdad were on full tilt (Good French & Soviet radar), and they saw nothing. Baghdad still had its lights on after the first wave was leaving. You don't need to be fast (F-15), or survivable (A-10) when you can't be heard, seen, or detected. As a FIRST STRIKE delivery system, stealth technology is a knockout punch. Surprise is the best tactic to win in war and stealth gives the airplane surprise once more. (On the question of First Strike, obviously the Iraqiis knew we were coming as Congress had authorized force. This was not a sneak attack like their invasion of Kuwait. Also, the U.S. still reserves the right for first use of nuclear weapons and F-117s can deliver such munitions through any air-defense.) In the later stages of the air campaign, when targets were being chosen very selectively in Baghdad, it was decided that only the F-117 would be allowed back over Baghdad. Accuracy was the reason. Too many targets were too closely located to civilian centers and pinpoint accuracy was needed. In the famous Bunker Bombing that so many civilians were killed, two bombs were dropped in a staggered release. The first cut through the roof and detonated on the top floor. The second bomb went through the hole created by the first and then went down into the lower reaches of the bunker and detonated, wiping out the military staff. Interesting isn't it how so quickly afterwards Saddam tried to worm out a peace arrangement. Bottom line, the F-117 fulfilled every role it was designed for, did so with flying colors, and brought its crews home. No other weapon in the Coalition inventory could have performed the role the F-117 could. Of course, I wouldn't expect the Nighthawk to take out tanks, or provide CAS. There are better, cheaper systems that are optimized for such roles. Afterall, it is a team affair and everybody has their job to do. -- Brian Douglass brian@edat.uucp