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From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist?
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Date: 18 Apr 91 18:59:12 GMT
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In article <RaBi11w163w@shark.cs.fau.edu> jeffb.bbs@shark.cs.fau.edu (Jeffrey Boser) writes:

   jeanne@mica.berkeley.edu (Jeanne Dusseault) writes:

   > Read the statement again.  I said "PLAYBOY'S" REPRESENTATION OF WOMEN
   > does not further a feminist objective.  This has nothing to do with
   > women posing nude to further their own feminist agenda.

   come again?  "their own feminist agenda" certainly qualifies as "a
   feminist objective" As far as I know, there is no official feminist
   organizations, only various organizations with little linking them
   other than general attitudes.

   .....jeff

If a woman poses for Playboy because she feels that it will futher her
"feminist agenda," that does not imply that the representation itself
(the pictures, as published in the magazine and seen by men) will
further a "feminist objective."  That is, suppose that I want to pose
for a spread on female computer programmers, because I want to show that
intelligent, technical women are not necessarily unattractive (i.e.
bashing a stereotype).  So, I pose, and I'm pleased with having done
what I wanted to do, etc.  Now, are the pictures of me any different
from the pictures of other women in there?  Probably not, since Playboy
has a reasonably consistent style, from what I've seen.  So, regardless
of my motives in posing, the published pictures are just like all the
other pictures.  My motives are not visible in the picture.

Muffy