Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!rex!uflorida!gatech!purdue!haven!ncifcrf!lhc!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) Newsgroups: comp.compression Subject: Re: Integer not expressable in less than 13 words Message-ID: <15901@smoke.brl.mil> Date: 20 Apr 91 18:59:28 GMT References: <15869@smoke.brl.mil> <1991Apr18.210832.9918@shl.com> <1991Apr19.155442.4840@looking.on.ca> Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD. Lines: 19 In article <1991Apr19.155442.4840@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes: >After all, "least positive integer not expressable in less than 13 >English words" has 11 words, so in fact there is no such animal. But then what about the following argument: There are a finite (although large) number of English words. The number of combinations of fewer than 13 words from the finite set of words is also finite (although very large). The combinations of fewer than 13 English words that express positive integers form a subset of the set of all possible combinations of fewer than 13 English words, and thus that subset is finite. Every finite set of positive integers has a least member. Therefore the (finite) set of positive integers expressed by that subset of English word combinations has a least member. It would seem that the phrase does describe some integer. Yes, it's a paradox. But it could be relevant when considering compression schemes that encode numeric values in terms of formulas.