Xref: utzoo comp.edu:4209 sci.math:16953 sci.misc:4932 ut.general:1516 uw.general:3329 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!ukma!ghot From: ghot@ms.uky.edu (Allan Adler) Newsgroups: comp.edu,sci.math,sci.misc,ut.general,uw.general,uw.math.grad,york.general Subject: Re: Subtle Math Questions Message-ID: <1991Apr23.014114.3603@ms.uky.edu> Date: 23 Apr 91 01:41:14 GMT References: <1991Apr21.194019.352@ms.uky.edu> <1991Apr22.221923.2370@groucho> <1991Apr23.005446.28791@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Lines: 50 The laudable suggestion has been made that we volunteer some time in the local schools. Presumably the term "we" refers to people who are not already working in the local schools. I think there might be some value in trying to articulate what exactly "we" might do when we go there to donate our time ? "We" don't all have to do the same thing and in fact "we" might find it useful to draw up a list of the things "we" might do, just in case any one of "us" is short on ideas. The first thing "we" should do is talk to "them". I think "they" might have some information that might be useful to "us", if not the other way around, and in addition "our" impressions of "them" might also be stimulating. I have not defined the term "them". I'm sure "they" have their own definition of "them" which might not mean "us", and we mgiht also talk to those that "they", at various times, refer to as "them". The second thing that "we", who do not work in the local schools, should do is to draw up a list of necessary and sufficient conditions under which "we" would be willing to abandon our separate status and work in the local schools. In making up this list, "we" should not be swayed by our impressions of what is possible. The purpose of the list is as much to present an alternative picture of local education, since there seems to be a real need for one. The third thing that "we" should do is to make some simple computations, based on the list of necessary and sufficient conditions, of pertinent figures related to funding this alternative picture: how many students, how many working hours, how many students and how many hours does a teacher have to teach, how many teachers does that require, how much do they have to be paid, how much equipment is required ancillary to various approaches to teaching (such as computers or laboratories in physical sciences or in design of sculptures or machines), how many more books and which books and at what cost, and what will it cost to guarantee us the time and f flexibility and resources for our own scholarship, and so forth ? Then "we" should bring this list (including signatures) to the attention of politicians, media and other bodies concerned with the reform of education and point out that there is an alternative to whatever they may have been planning on. Finally, "we" should pause and wonder why it is that "we" think that the working and educational environment which "we" would insist on for ourselves is not necessary unless "we" happen to be working there. "We" will feel a little bit better making a charitable donation of our time to the local schools, but "we" cannot seriously expect by such means to bridge the gap between what the schools are and what they ought to be. Allan Adler ghot@ms.uky.edu