Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu From: greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT Press Release Message-ID: <47555@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 20 Apr 91 19:07:53 GMT References: <11145@uwm.edu> <91dGsess1@cs.psu.edu> <47471@ut-emx.uucp> <4c9Go-jt1@cs.psu.edu> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Reply-To: greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp) Distribution: comp Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Lines: 47 In article <4c9Go-jt1@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: >In article <47471@ut-emx.uucp> greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp) writes: > > I thought you said you were a NeXT developer... The NeXTStep _I_ saw and > used (YES, version 2.0 on an 040 box) _was_ sluggish. Sure you have a NeXT > there? ;-) > >I never said that I was a developer!! And I use NeXT quite a bit. Excuse me. You have said that you were programming them. Maybe developer isn't the word... HAVE you programmed them? >The NeXT is comparable to a SPARC 1+ is raw CPU performance. Comparable. Not equal. The 1+ has a few MIPS on the 040. Of course, MIPS means nothing. Perceived speed does, and the percieved speed of the 1+ is at least two times as fast as the NeXT (from my experience). >I thought Sun shipped their SparcStations with 16megs of memory. I can only go by what the owner of the machine told me. Also, a quick glimpse into the BYTE review of the SPARC 2 series seems to imply that they shipped 8MB in the first-generation SPARCs. Certianly the two SPARC clones reviewed in the next few pages are only 8MB machines. >The NeXT isn't that bad. Try running the Saturn demo, BoinkOut, and >BreakApp concurrently. I don't have the demos that came with the 86 >Amiga, so I can't compare. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if the >Amiga was a better animation machine. If games are what you want, the >A500 is definitely the way to go. It's much cheaper than the NeXT too. >Just don't try to run Unix on it. Games are not what I want. Graphics are some of what I want, though. You keep trying to show how DP/NeXTStep is the be-all, end-all of UIs and that couldn't be farther from true. In fact, I feel it has only limited use. It'd have been nice if there had been a way to use DP when you needed it and not use it when it was just deadweight. >-Mike Greg -- Greg Harp |"How I wish, how I wish you were here. We're just two |lost souls swimming in a fishbowl, year after year, greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu|running over the same ground. What have we found? s609@cs.utexas.edu |The same old fears. Wish you were here." - Pink Floyd