Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!mcnc!taco!hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu!kdarling From: kdarling@hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: New baseline Amiga? Message-ID: <1991Apr23.192201.21360@ncsu.edu> Date: 23 Apr 91 19:22:01 GMT References: <8737@crash.cts.com> Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: North Carolina State University Lines: 35 uzun@pnet01.cts.com (Roger Uzun) writes: > I think the focus should be on getting the price of the A500 to as low > as possible. Backyard _rumor_ is that they're working on a lower cost chipset now. Supposedly for a <$400 A500 version, or something like that. > Out of curiosity, given that a 16 bit, 7 Mhz 68000 based A500 with > 1M of RAM goes for $600.00 (just a guess, use this figure for our > comparison here), what would a 14Mhz 68020 based (or whatever clock speed > would be easy and cheap to implement in a redesign) with 1M of 32 bit > RAM retail for. Say with a 68881/2 socket, but no math chip. Beancounters tell me that the 020 isn't worth the gain for the added cost. I think they're missing the worth of "bragging rights" to some owners. But word is that 020 availability will drop to near nil levels before long (if not already). Companies are just skipping straight to the 030+ instead. A friend of mine designed a 4x8" 6-layer board with an 030, two 1 or 4 meg SIMM sockets, part of the CD-I video chipset, and SCSI/serial/par/etc out the wazoo. I think he put one together for about $600 (a half a year ago). It was a screamer, with great gfx to boot. I've been after him to sell it with no 030, RAM or case (let the buyer dig up the best deal) for $200-250. Instead, he came up with a 68340-based CD-I video 1-meg card to sell for <$300 (no case/keyboard/mouse/drive... those cost more than the computer!) The reason I bring those up is to point out that: if he were able to start from scratch, an engineer could use _off the shelf_ parts to make a neat new model fairly cheaply. If custom chips have to be created tho, that can add up quickly in time and cost. Just some more meat for the grinder. best - kevin PS: I agree with those who think a SCSI/display enhancer addition would be both easier and more useful.