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From: greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp)
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Subject: Re: Kickstart 2.0
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Date: 23 Apr 91 18:45:06 GMT
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In article <111465@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> watters@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (david r watters) writes:
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>This is not total true.  The A3000 also runs under OS1.3!  It should have been
>released with 1.3 if 2.0 was not ready.  Obviously C-A felt 2.0 was ready 
>enough to be released in A3000's... well then, it is ready enough to ship in
>A500's and A2000's and should be available as a upgrade for those that already
>own machines.  Everyone would understand that it was not the final or newest
>version of the OS, just as A3000 owners know this.

The 3000 has 1.3 because a significant amount of software wasn't written by
Commodore's rules.  Many programs that people would miss broke under the
new OS.  Many things that people could get away with before don't work the
same under 2.0.  Other than bug fixes, revisions have been made to work
around some of these problems.  

In other words, 2.0 wasn't ready enough for release on its own, although
that is the fault of other software developers.  I have been amazed but
pleased at some of the things they have done to get software to work.  They
have also been working with software companies in order to help them solve
their problems.

A 2.0 release for the other machines would have to be on disk, similar to
the betas.  The percentage of users who have enough memory that is in the
right place for the ROM image is quite small.  In addition, loading 512K
from floppy at every bootup would be a pretty big pain, IMHO.  Aside from
the memory a lot less Amiga owners have hard drives.

>I totally agree! However, I paid $3000 for a A2500/30.  Two weeks later the
>A3000 came out with 2.0 for $2500.  I can't even get A2091 ROMS that work
>as they should.  Why shouldn't my machine also have 2.0? My Amiga Dealer
>is still trying to tell me that the A2500/30 is C-A's flagship until the
>A3000T comes out.  ECS Denise is done!  It's going into A3000's and Rejuvinated
>A1000's... I got the 1meg Agnus... Add 2.0 and I am set!  
>So... Why can't we all get ECS Denises?  Why can't we all get 2.0?

Your dealer took you for a ride on that 2500/30 unless you are doing video
work or something else that would make it a better choice than the 3000.
Certainly they knew about the 3000 when they sold you the 2500, even if you
didn't (you didn't say whether you did).  As for the ECS Denise, I don't
know why they don't sell them in the US.  Someone told me (although I can't
be sure) that they are available in Australia.  (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

-- 
       Greg Harp       |"I was there to match my intellect on national TV,
                       | against a plumber and an architect, both with a PhD."
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