Path: utzoo!utgpu!cunews!bnrgate!bwdls58!bwdlh417!dbscoop2 From: dbscoop2@bwdlh417.BNR.CA (Alun Fryer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: Agnus Message-ID: <6516@bwdls58.bnr.ca> Date: 19 Apr 91 16:56:36 GMT References: <1991Apr17.082037.27978@cs.uow.edu.au> Sender: news@bwdls58.bnr.ca Reply-To: dbscoop2@bwdlh417.BNR.CA (Alun Fryer) Distribution: world Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Lines: 39 There are at least 5 different Agnuses (Agni?) that I know of. The first is the "normal" agnus, which is a standard DIP chip and only came in the old A1000's. I'm not sure of the part no of it. Then came the "FAT" agnus, which has a part number "8370" (I beleive). There are two of these. One is for NTSC (8370) and on is PAL (not sure of part no.). Then came the (SUPER | ONE-MEG | OBESE | FATTER | REALLY BIG | OH-WOW-I-NOW-HAVE-A-WHOLE-1-MEG-OF-CHIP-RAM ) agnus (pt. no. 8372). This is that same chip for both NTSC and PAL. Finally comes the SUPER_GODLY 2 meg agnus which is only avaiable in the A3000/3000T. (pt. No. - I don't know). I'm not 100% sure of the chip numbers but I do know the old Fat agnus ends in a "0" and the 1 meg ends in a "2". Now as to the question about "why 2 types of RAM?"... The Amiga has 2 types of RAM: CHIP ram and FAST RAM. CHIP RAM is so called since it is the RAM which is accessable by the CUSTOM chips (Agnus, Denise, Paula). The limiting factor is the AGNUS chip. The old FAT agnus would only allow 512k to be "CHIP" ram, where the Newer Super Agnus allows 1 Meg. The A3000 agnus allows 2 Meg. FAST RAM is all RAM which is not CHIP RAM. It is called FAST RAM because the CPU has faster access to it. Well, really what I mean is that since the custom chips don't have access, the CPU doesn't have to wait for them to gain access to the RAM. There is also so-called "SLOW-FAST" RAM which is the second 512k in a machine with a 512k Agnus in it, but I wouldn't worry about it. Basically, CHIP RAM is the only RAM which you can directly use for graphics and sound. If you want more than that (e.g. a 2MB sound sample), your software has to swap the data into CHIP RAM when it is needed. I hope this clears things up a bit. - Alun Fryer