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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ASIC Prototype
Message-ID: <51735@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 19 Apr 91 21:07:10 GMT
References: <1991Apr17.213524.5010@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <51671@apple.Apple.COM> <1991Apr18.190155.5198@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
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In article <1991Apr18.190155.5198@m.cs.uiuc.edu> bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>>Pardon, but I have been around for the last 2 years listening to Tony Fadell
>>tell the world of his 'super-816,' and quite frankly I don't believe him any
>>more.  I've met the guy personally and talked to him (not in the last year),
>>and I _still_ doubt that he's going to be able to come through.
>>
>>I would dearly like to be proven wrong, but I don't see that happening.
>
>   Sure thing, Andy. I hate to burst your bubble, but it's in my machine
>right now, I'm using it to dial in to post this message.

No problem.  I don't have any hangups on ASIC.  I hope they deliver; however,
I'd also like to point out that just because you post to the net saying
that you have one in your GS doesn't make it real.  And, until your average Joe
User or Joe Company can call somebody up and order thousands of them, the
chip is practically useless except to those privileged few who have them.
If only 10 or 20 chips exist, what good are they?

Also, having a DIP 65816 running in a GS isn't amazing.  We (Apple) do it all
the time in the regular GS (ie, "ho hum").

Sorry guy, but I'm not going to believe this thing exists until I I see one
work at the speeds claimed with my own eyes.  I believed ASIC the first time
they came around with their chip.

"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

andy

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