Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!fauern!unido!ipsi!wallmann From: wallmann@ipsi.UUCP (Georg Wallmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Graphics on the STE - v. generally speaking... Message-ID: <1572@ipsi.UUCP> Date: 22 Apr 91 15:35:20 GMT References: <1991Apr3.051045.1894@ns.network.com> <1991Apr03.150135.26529@chinet.chi.il.us> <40922@cup.portal.com> <1991Apr5.231704.19657@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <1563@ipsi.UUCP> <1991Apr16.192259.4357@rice.edu> <1991Apr16.211304.6829@rice.edu> Reply-To: xbr1de7b@ddathd21.bitnet (Georg Wallmann) Organization: GMD Darmstadt (MSD/NAT) Lines: 47 In article <1991Apr16.211304.6829@rice.edu> bgr@uncle-bens.rice.edu (Robert G. Rhode) writes: >In article <1991Apr16.192259.4357@rice.edu>, bgr@uncle-bens.rice.edu (Robert G. Rhode) writes: >> In article <1563@ipsi.UUCP>, wallmann@ipsi.UUCP (Georg Wallmann) writes: >> >> > always came up with "too expensive". Of course if you think 16 MB isn't >> > expensive ... as you do in your post. While thinking about it I >> > had this great idea for a new RAM technology, which unfortunately >> > (then unbeknownst to me) already existed as dual-port RAM. Even then the >> > bus width needed and the cycle speed is just about too ridicolous for >> > [deleted] >> I think I can (theoretically) offer you a better deal: >> >> How about 1024x1024x24-bit color for <$350 parts cost (if you are an OEM)... >> >> Ingredients: >> 24 1-Megabit Video Rams @ ~$12 each => 3 MB >> 1 Brooktree triple 8-bit RAMDAC @ ~@50 >> glue logic >> > >I hope this reaches more than just me this time... Sure did... Your graphics board sounds quite good, even for twice the price, but what H.Chu and I were talking about was some sort of graphip coprocessor like the old 8-Bit ANTIC. ANTIC provided control over the vertical arrangement of the screen (where to get the memory from and to display in what resolution). I figured that a coprocessor that also tried to control the horizontal arrangement (as great as that would be) would be much to costly in terms of bus speed. Otherwise you'd need to restrict the number of windows displayable pretty severely. As to the guy, who responded saying that hardware cursors were bullshit in the nineties. We 'discussed' this offline and I just want to state that a) I am not convinced that hardware cursors are useless b) questioning my CS knowledge was maybe a bit hasty Anyway. I have seen a couple of adds now in various journals about note book computers. I thought that the Atari notebook was doing handwriting recognition, or am I wrong on that ? Most of the other notebooks don't seem to be able to do that. Nat! Email: XBR1DE7B@DDATHD21.BITNET (only this address)