Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!cs.umu.se!dvljrt From: dvljrt@cs.umu.se (Joakim Rosqvist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: diff 68000 68010 (really 68010) Message-ID: <1991Apr19.203608.4560@cs.umu.se> Date: 19 Apr 91 20:36:08 GMT References: <1991Apr17.114247.6446@cs.umu.se> <4900.280d4d72@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> <1991Apr18.222550.6920@oakhill.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@cs.umu.se (News Administrator) Organization: Dep. of Info.Proc, Umea Univ., Sweden Lines: 35 >In all honesty, we really do not recommend using the 68010 for new designs. >The big advantage of the 68010 over the 68000 was its ability to handle and >recover from virtual exceptions. Yes it had some other minor benefits >(MUL & DIV timing, and 'loop mode' operation), but VM capability was by far >the biggest. Since the introduction of the 68020, 030, and 040 , the 68010 >offers very little value to the general computer market and has very little >volume behind it compared to its successors. > >If you are building a 'computer' we really recommend the 020 or later. You >can actually buy 020's today for less than 010's. If you are building >an 'embedded' something and liked faster MULs, DIVs or two instruction loops, >our 68300 family products (68330, 68331, 68332, and 68340) all provide these >nifty things and lots more to boot (and are also cheaper than 010s). > >Unlike that other members of the 68000 family, the 68010 WAS a point product >and we consider it to be obsolete for most (but not all) purposes. > >-- >Regards, >Jim Reinhart >Motorola Microprocessor Products Group >Austin, Texas I was not planning to construct a new system, but instead use the 68010 as a cheap way of speeding up an existing 68000 system (my A1000) I would like to know *which instructions are faster* and *by how many cycles* If i execute label: move.w (a0)+,(a1)+ dbra d0,label on the 68k it will take 22 cycles for each loop. What will this be with a 2 instruction cache? As good as 8 perhaps? /$DR.HEX$