Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!apple!ntg!dplatt From: dplatt@ntg.uucp (Dave Platt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Stylewriter / Deskwriter Message-ID: <74@goblin.ntg.uucp> Date: 19 Apr 91 18:07:03 GMT References: <1991Apr11.173045.3661@tkna.uucp> <66@goblin.ntg.uucp> <12194@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Reply-To: dplatt@ntg.UUCP (Dave Platt) Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc. Palo Alto CA Lines: 56 In article <12194@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jane@kudu.ee.lbl.gov (Jane Colman) writes: >I know this has been discussed before on the net, but for those >of us still trying to make up our minds--why a DeskWriter >rather than a StyleWriter? I am not overly concerned about >either the price difference or the speed difference, and I >will probably never need AppleTalk, so my major concerns are >quality, reliability, and ease of use (in a household consisting >of mechanical idiots). Well, my impression is that the DeskJet/DeskWriter mechanism is designed for a somewhat longer useful lifetime than the StyleWriter. The DeskFoo isn't designed to be portable (even though it's quite light in weight), and so its physical design includes some features that I think are quite useful in a personal printer. For example: its paper feed bin, platen, ink station, and paper stacker are all somewhat enclosed... dust cannot easily settle onto the paper from above. In our household, that's significant >grin<. The StyleWriter's paper-feed slot exposes the paper supply to dust... if you don't use the printer for a couple of days, the first sheet to be printed might end up with some slight blurring due to dust on the printing surface. Also, the DeskFoo mechanism has existed for several years now, and there's been enough time for HP to get a few bugs out of it (they've changed the pen-priming system a couple of times). I purchased and read through the service-technician's manual for this printer, and I was struck by the elegance of the mechanical design... I think it's a well-designed piece of "iron". Any engineering team who puts in a complete cartridge self-test (the printer can tell you _which_ specific inkjet resistor isn't drawing the right amount of current to fire), _and_ includes a "spittoon" in their design, wins my admiration! ("Gentleprinters are requested to use the cuspidors while printing.") There is another factor involved: cost of the cartridges. It's possible to refill the HP cartridges, although HP does not recommend this. Most people use Skrip or a similar fountain-pen ink, which works well at a low cost ($1 or so per full refill) but is water soluble (as was the original HP ink). It's possible to buy refill kits from JetFill, Diablo, and several other companies, which provide a convenient way to refill the HP cartridges with an ink that's roughly comparable to the new HP ink formulation (which is much more smear-resistant than the old ink). These refill kits seem to cost on the rough order of $10/refill... sometimes less. As far as I know, it's not possible to refill the StyleWriter/BubbleJet cartridges... at least, not without some real mechanical hacking. I haven't heard of anyone who has done it successfully. -- Dave Platt VOICE: (415) 813-8917 UUCP: ...apple!ntg!dplatt USNAIL: New Technologies Group Inc. 2468 Embarcardero Way, Palo Alto CA 94303