Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.misc:11198 comp.sys.mac.system:4543 comp.sys.mac.hardware:10524 Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!gaynor From: gaynor@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) Subject: Re: 32-bit Clean ROM upgrade - list created. Message-ID: <1991Apr22.122256.12812@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University References: <1949@camex.COM> <1991Apr19.150252.26729@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <17646@venera.isi.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1991 12:22:56 GMT Lines: 50 In article <17646@venera.isi.edu> jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes: >> [following discussion about the "newroms" mailing list]... >And yet this list ignores the situation of II (and IIx?) owners, >seeming to say "screw them, just give *us* the upgrade!" As a II >owner, I support this list, but feel that some reasonably priced >option should exist for II owners to use 32-bit addressing. I don't >want a free ride up to IIfx, though a cheaper upgrade wouldn't be >unwelcome (come on, how much can those chips cost?). That's right, Jeff. You're absolutely right. This mailing list that I've been doing is just a plot to greedily get -myself- an upgrade, and to hell with everyone else, -especially- owners of Mac II's and IIx's. Listen, I've already dumped a lot of time into this bloody thing. Fielding mail from people who send their request to me, or to the list itself, or who want to orate in their subscription request (which makes the processor barf). Then there's the people with the weird mailing addresses, and the fact that I'm running this on a VMS machine with a freeware SMTP mailer that currently seems to be barfing because the list is so fragging big. Not to mention time spent on Compuserve, and on the phone. (Do -you- want to make a long-distance call from Ohio to California?) And in the meantime, I'm trying to work a full-time job, and spend enough time with my fiance so that she doesn't forget I exist. I picked the Macs with ROM SIMMs because, out of all the Macs, they were the -most likely- ones that Apple would offer an upgrade for. Why? Because they advertised that the ROMs were easy to upgrade. Did they say that about the II? About the 512ke? No. So, if we can shame Apple into living up to expections with -these- machines, then we have a foothold, and can maybe get upgrades for other machines. But you don't try to grab everything at once. It won't happen, and if it's tried that way, Apple will just get annoyed, and not offer -any- upgrade. Sure, shouting and yelling at them might make you feel better, but is it going to get anyone in Apple on our side? No, it won't. And it doesn't work with me, either. Looks like this degenerated into a bit of a flame. Sorry about that, folks... -- Jim Gaynor - Systems Analyst 1 + "Pooh hasn't much Brain, but he never Ohio State University ACS-FMS-OCES | comes to any harm. He does silly gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | things and they come out right." gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu + -Piglet, from "Winnie-The-Pooh"