Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!noc.MR.NET!gacvx2.gac.edu!gacvx2.gac.edu!scott From: scott@texnext.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Sendmail - where should it pick up the fullname from Message-ID: Date: 23 Apr 91 15:16:51 GMT References: <1991Apr17.164751.1864@ohm.york.ac.uk> Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College Lines: 51 Nntp-Posting-Host: texnext.gac.edu In-reply-to: nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk's message of 17 Apr 91 16:47:51 GMTLines: 51 In article <1991Apr17.164751.1864@ohm.york.ac.uk> nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel Metheringham) writes: Also, am I alone in thinking that although NeXTmail is great fun, it is not as well designed in functionality as elm - particularly with regard to the addresses panel - if I knew local users usernames I would type them in (far faster), but the thing does not give the fullnames for these people (even if they are in netinfo, or the passwd file it scans). It does not do anything sensible with aliases - I *know* what the alias names are, and in our case it ends up displaying a whole bunch of include file specifications, because it insists on tampering with a sendmail (ie transport layer) alias file rather than having a nice user friendly MUA level aliasing scheme. Maybe I'm just spoilt because I use and support elm here and although it can't handle sounds, files, graphics and fancy fonts, it does the job of providing a good mailer service much better than NeXTmail. You're not alone. Seriously, if NeXT didn't keep pounding on the "multimedia" aspect of Mail.app, I'd think it was a demo that accidentily was included in /NextApps. I do agree that Elm and some other mailers are more functional - though I was happy to see that NeXT fixed at least a couple things in 2.0. Luckly for me, NeXT's Mail.app supplies just about all I need for mail (except for the Addresses panel - not to cut down the programmers, or anything, but the UI on that beast sucks. Half the time it's not obvious exactly what's selected - for instance, I've often selected a member of a group for deletion, and then had delete delete the entire group. The secret it to watch and make sure that the little icon turns into a _single_ user, rather than the group thingy). Anyhow, if you want to try out a different mailer on the NeXT, go get MailManager/EasyMail from the archives. I personally don't care for them, but then again I have no need for anything they offer (I don't like the UI, either, but that doesn't matter if Mail.app can't do what you want while MailManager can, right?). But quite a few people do use them, and seem to like them just fine, so maybe it's just me :-). [To be fair to both sides, if I really disliked Mail.app and MailManager didn't fit the bill, I'd probably have written one for myself that did, or be using Elm or Mush or MH. But, I use Mail.app, and the apparent lack of a ScottMail on the archives is a large indicator of exactly how much faith should be placed in my complaints :-) -scott] Later, -- scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer GAC Undergrad "Simply press Control-right-Shift while click-dragging the mouse . . ." "I smoke the nose Lucifer . . . Banana, banana."